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HockeyBuzz Fast Take
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jul 6 @ 1:17 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Hotstove: Worst Free Agent Signings?
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 1:47 PM ET
I'd love to know what other team was competing for Engelland at those $$$?

Same goes for Orpik? - What other team was offering him 5 million over 5?
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Jul 6 @ 1:53 PM ET
Bolland can't even be competed against, but Orpik and Engelland do their best.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 1:57 PM ET
Bolland can't even be competed against, but Orpik and Engelland do their best.
- TommyDeVito


I thought Pouliot was awful as well.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 6 @ 2:07 PM ET
I thought Pouliot was awful as well.
- jugkope

He could make it look like a bargain but probably not
Babalu88
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TML land, ON
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 2:26 PM ET
He could make it look like a bargain but probably not
- KreiderBomb


I don't think so. He was used well in NY and fit in.. Now everyone is going to look at him for big O numbers in EDM and it most likely wont be there.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:34 PM ET
As a Panthers' fan, I'm happy we have Bolland. But as a hockey fan, his contract makes me wanna puke. The guy is going to be on our third line. Oye.
Babalu88
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TML land, ON
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 2:37 PM ET
As a Panthers' fan, I'm happy we have Bolland. But as a hockey fan, his contract makes me wanna puke. The guy is going to be on our third line. Oye.
- Panthers88


The biggest worry if I were a panthers fan would be the injury. He really didn't look the same when he came back last year in Toronto. I mean he'll get a few more months of healing but still.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
The biggest worry if I were a panthers fan would be the injury. He really didn't look the same when he came back last year in Toronto. I mean he'll get a few more months of healing but still.
- Babalu88

I didn't pay attention to him to be honest. He is here mainly to mentor Barkov and Bjugstad. We didn't have a third line center and he fits that bill... I don't see him playing out the full term of his contract anyways.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:01 PM ET
I don't think so. He was used well in NY and fit in.. Now everyone is going to look at him for big O numbers in EDM and it most likely wont be there.
- Babalu88


I don't even see him hitting 30 points/season.
TimBits
Montreal Canadiens
Location: AB
Joined: 08.08.2012

Jul 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
Orpik, Engelland and Bolland were all horrible.

An honourable mention to Clayton Stoner as well. 13 million over 4 years. WTF?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 6 @ 3:27 PM ET
Orpik, Engelland and Bolland were all horrible.

An honourable mention to Clayton Stoner as well. 13 million over 4 years. WTF?

- TimBits


Bob Murray is really high on him.
TimBits
Montreal Canadiens
Location: AB
Joined: 08.08.2012

Jul 6 @ 3:33 PM ET
Bob Murray is really high on him.
- Nucker101

starshower776
New York Rangers
Location: Newbury Park, CA
Joined: 06.21.2014

Jul 6 @ 3:34 PM ET
The money and contract that Edmonton have Pouliot was just idiotic. Edmonton is paying Pouliot based on what they think he MAY do, not what he can. What we know he can be, is a fairly average 3rd line winger, who was very fortunate to play with Brassard and especially Zuccarello. And he's not playing for a contract anymore. I just can't imagine what the Oilers were thinking here. Pouliot's mental lapses can be both lengthy and severe.
trevy
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 02.09.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:29 PM ET
As much as I agree with you about the Engelland signing, I think you have to weigh some of the positive factors. For instance, he's young, he's a stop gap to bringing in some better talent in the Flames dmen, he was approached by over 10 teams, the Flames had to reach the cap floor, it's actually 2.9 mill/yr and it's only for 3 yrs! With contracts like Orpiks or worse yet, Stoners, I hardly believe this warrants it as being one of the worst signings. Besides, given some better ice time and responsibilities on the Flames back end might end up maturing Engellands game into a more rounded dman. You never know and shouldn't be so quick to judge before the player even played one game.
btzturbo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:04 PM ET
The money and contract that Edmonton have Pouliot was just idiotic. Edmonton is paying Pouliot based on what they think he MAY do, not what he can. What we know he can be, is a fairly average 3rd line winger, who was very fortunate to play with Brassard and especially Zuccarello. And he's not playing for a contract anymore. I just can't imagine what the Oilers were thinking here. Pouliot's mental lapses can be both lengthy and severe.
- starshower776


compare how he does to penner a few years ago
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:13 PM ET
I don't think so. He was used well in NY and fit in.. Now everyone is going to look at him for big O numbers in EDM and it most likely wont be there.
- Babalu88

No they arent. He's there to bring size and some board play.
XxHarounXx
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sam Gagner dealt to Toronto for Gardiner+ - Cloutier, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jul 6 @ 5:35 PM ET
As much as I agree with you about the Engelland signing, I think you have to weigh some of the positive factors. For instance, he's young, he's a stop gap to bringing in some better talent in the Flames dmen, he was approached by over 10 teams, the Flames had to reach the cap floor, it's actually 2.9 mill/yr and it's only for 3 yrs! With contracts like Orpiks or worse yet, Stoners, I hardly believe this warrants it as being one of the worst signings. Besides, given some better ice time and responsibilities on the Flames back end might end up maturing Engellands game into a more rounded dman. You never know and shouldn't be so quick to judge before the player even played one game.
- trevy

Brad, is that you?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:48 PM ET
As much as I agree with you about the Engelland signing, I think you have to weigh some of the positive factors. For instance, he's young, he's a stop gap to bringing in some better talent in the Flames dmen, he was approached by over 10 teams, the Flames had to reach the cap floor, it's actually 2.9 mill/yr and it's only for 3 yrs! With contracts like Orpiks or worse yet, Stoners, I hardly believe this warrants it as being one of the worst signings. Besides, given some better ice time and responsibilities on the Flames back end might end up maturing Engellands game into a more rounded dman. You never know and shouldn't be so quick to judge before the player even played one game.
- trevy


Umm....he's played 243 NHL games....plenty to judge by. He got way more than he's worth....
Travis Yost
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jul 6 @ 6:23 PM ET
Orpik, Engelland and Bolland were all horrible.

An honourable mention to Clayton Stoner as well. 13 million over 4 years. WTF?

- TimBits

Agree..
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Jul 6 @ 6:24 PM ET
No they arent. He's there to bring size and some board play.
- Iggysbff


4 million a year for size and board play? I doubt the Oilers brass would be dumb enough to pay that much just for that...they expect numbers out of him at that salary.
yelraf10
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 6 @ 6:28 PM ET
Villie. Leino. One of the worst signings in the history of the league. Glad he's gone.
trevy
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 02.09.2007

Jul 6 @ 6:31 PM ET
Umm....he's played 243 NHL games....plenty to judge by. He got way more than he's worth....
- Iggysbff

Right...I forgot that players are judged solely on one team that they played for. So I guess there's no room for improvement. My bad.
JetsAvs
Location: Kelowna, BC
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:40 PM ET
I'm going to throw my 2 cents in here and suggest that the yotes signing dubs for more than $1 per year will go down as the worst signing in the nhl this year. What were they thinking?
Travis Yost
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jul 6 @ 6:51 PM ET
Right...I forgot that players are judged solely on one team that they played for. So I guess there's no room for improvement. My bad.
- trevy


Why would you believe a 32-year old player is more likely to improve after leaving a team than not?

Why would you even believe it's a coin flip?

I'm honestly curious.
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